Feb 5th Advisory Board Meeting MOM Session -2


The meeting started at 10 am. With a welcome by the Chairman G Sudhir. Prof Amitabh Kundu chaired the first session.

Prof. Balasubramanian

44.6 lakh Muslims, unevenly distributed
12.7 per cent of population, Christians 1.3
Increased from 12.4 to 12.7…..concentrated in Ranga Reddy and Hyderabad
11 to 14. 2 from 1961 to 2011 – all over India
Urbanisation levels vary across districts
All religious groups have shown a decrease in fertility rates
Child sex ratio – much higher child sex ratio
Telangana generally doing better than the rest of the country, partly explained by north south variation
Projections of population….goes up to between 52.8 to 55.9 lakhs by 2026
Observed rate of growth is 1.47% per annum for Muslims

Why do the growth rates show fluctuations during 191-91 at national level? Trend since 1991 is clear. The issue must be addressed before the recent trends are taken for projection.
Growth rates of Ranga Reddy and Hyderabad….latter has gone down significantly
1.97 to 0.29???
Ranga Reddy – population growth rate has gone up!!!
Also child sex ratios…explain the figures. CSR are same for Hundus and Muslims in Hyderabad and Rangareddy while they vary signficntly in other districts. Any explanation?
The Doddekulamuslims are not added….. Could that be the reason?
The Child woman ratio could be used to validate trend in population growth rates.

Prof. R B Bhagat and Imtiyaz Ali

Why does migration happen?
Muslims receive twice as much remittance compared to non Muslims
Muslim expenditure on education and health is higher of the remittances
Why do Muslims migrate three times more than non Muslims do?

Prof. Sayeedunnisa

Communicable and non communicable diseases
Prevalence is variable
The focus has always been on fertility differentials, health and mortality have been ignored
No data on mortality by religion
Muslim children nutritional status is better
Wasting, stunting and underweight children
Obesity among Muslim women
Anemia levels are also slightly higher than non Muslims
Blood pressure and blood sugar levels…higher
Epilepsy levels pretty high
Muslims seem to have better access and better outcomes in Telangana…important for us to understand why this happens and what Telangana has done.
Why do children fare better? Need some explanation.

National level data shows access to government med facilities low for Muslims and yet outcomes are slight better or the same as other communities.

Amartya Sen’s argument – issues of the poor –Welfare economics gives weightage to not feeling happy/not being well. The cause is not given weightage…
Obesity and hunger can be seen with a similar lens as both cause sufferings. Should the focus in Telangana be on poverty linked ailments or the problems of the middle class.

Prof. Satya Shekhar

Anemia status
The composite index does not show much difference between communities
Huge improvement during the NHRM
C section rates are high
Health service utilization among Muslim women and children is higher

Are the differences statistically significant?
Is the difference purely because of the urban bias? We should look at the districts with rural populations more closely
The sanitation issue – does open defecation matter?
The need to look at rural and urban data separately
Categorize more…give SC/ST separately
All Hindus in one category will not show correct results


Prof. Amit Bubna moderated the discussion. Prof Madhava Menon could not deliver his keynote address on account of some exigency.

Prof. A K Shiva Kumar

The broader agenda of governance
The SDG 6 – universal access to affordable safe drinking water
Universal healthcare – what is the common understanding
Position of women in Telangana are not very good.
Literacy rate is low and age at marriage is low
58 percent of deliveries are C section – outrageous

Prof. Suleman Siddiqi

• Restrict myself to education
• Osmania University ..drastic reduction in number of Muslims’ in both the Arts and the Science Colleges
• The state of placements in various colleges is extremely poor
• Industry is growing at a fast pace, however Muslims don’t find employment
• UGC and the government have been setting up competitive coaching centers
• Muslims absent from these coaching centres, even with them the results are abysmal
• The University Industry hub….students good at theory, poor in practice
• Recommend that the Telangana government should start incubation centres
• Like the ICICI – Osmania MOU that set up incubation centres at 5 locations
• PPPs like these for the Muslim students

Prof. Faizan Mustafa

• The issue of reservations
• After the legal battles where the High court strikes down the reservations each time
• The court asked for evidence on socio economic backwardness but the government could not produce even the Sachar Committee
• The High Court was not supposed to go deeper into this issue, however it made this error
• And refused religion based reservations
• Data was available but insufficient
• We must go beyond these figures
• The COI must meet the legal challenge in arguing for affirmative action
• Research what is happening in private minority unaided institutions
• See what number of non Muslim students are admitted through management quota
• Going against Article 30 of the Constitution
• NALSAR has a domicile reservation
• Rarely do we get Muslim students at NALSAR
• Fee is high so only the elite benefits from these minority institutions
• Weneedmore aided minority institutions. Need more female oriented institutions
• The DAV in Jalandhar justifies its reservations
• The caste system among Muslims cannot be denied…identify these to be able to argue at the Backward Caste Commission

A GO during the undivided AP – that minority institutions will only admit minority students. However only the elite benefit.

There is a great deal of inequality. What is driving this inequality?
Historical reasons – unable to meet the requirements
All income poor face lack of access
Why do the Muslims get discriminated more?
The Commission should inquire this issue and analyze what is it in the Muslim identity that discriminates

Prof. Amitabh Kundu

Muslim OBCs have higher level of poverty and socio economic deprivation than non Muslim OBCs
The issue is Have can we given enoughprovide adequate evidence that would be legally and constitutionally acceptable? Article 14…no discrimination
How come we give SC status to Sikhs and Buddhists, as proposed by Post Sachar Committee?
West Bengal has made its case with economic and social factors and not on religion?
The Diversity Committee argued that given the trend of withdrawal of the state from employment, educational and health sectors, reservation in public sector would make limited impact on the wellbeing of the vulnerable communities makes the public sector more and more irrelevant.
We need a diversity index….private sector can be brought under comes in with an incentive disincentive system tohat encourages diversity. Muslim OBCs can get the benefit of need a sub quota through identification of Maha Backward OBC.
One way to meet the religion based argument is to operationalisetalk of the Diversity Index.

The Ashok Thakur case…there can be reservation in private educational institutions
Educate the private sector on what diversity means, its not only gender ratios.

The Indira Sahnicase…where reservations should not exceed 50 per cent

What about CSR? Reputation did not make a difference till the Company Law was amended

Members present

• Prof. Amit Bubna
• Prof. Amitabh Kundu
• Prof. Faizan Mustafa
• Prof. Jeemol Unni
• Prof. A K Shiva Kumar
• Prof. Sanjay Chintakindi
• P C Mohanan
• Prof. Suleman Siddiqi
• Prof. M Akhter Ali
• Prof. NilanjanBanik
• Prof. Sheela Prasad

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